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of ongoing debate we've had for years with facial recognition technology and how much of that we aught to be having in this country which raises all sorts of civil liberty questions and big brother questions. i think this episode that we've witnessed just this afternoon could become a very big factor in that debate about facial recognition technology in this country. >> i think you're absolutely right. i think as we see things up fold, it'll spark a number of larger debates but i was wondering, michael, do have you a sense of a time line when this information came to law enforcement, when they figured thought was a significant lead, where we are in that time line now? >> it was a eureka moment when they found the video of from we lef that lord & taylor store a couple lhundred yards from here showing the individual dropping off the bag. that was not something they had yesterday. from all our sourcing, through last night, through this morning. there were no breakthroughs. so my guess is they got that at some point early today. and it filtered up and they matched it up with the video from
in technology from 9/11. pete william was discussing that on our show. the three terabytes of data that they say they have. that's 3 trillion bytes, the library of congress get that over several weeks. in technology circles, what they call crowd sourcing being used to try to take the communal desire to do something and to help catch whoever these perpetrators are. and yet from your experience on these issues, what can they do to speed up that process? that is an enormous amount for investigators to go through. is it not? >> it is. i think if this was just the boston police department, as good as they are, that would be an overwhelming technical matter. because we have the resources of the federal government, i think this is going to be able to be handled a lot easier than it otherwise would have been. it is just a matter of processing it. one of the good things about the age we live in, not only do people have phones that they're taking pictures. there's a the love data embedded in those pictures. time information, other sorts of information about where the mobile phone was. so there is a lot of
, not if, when bad actors get their hands on the same technology that we have, and use it in terrible ways, we really lose our ability to lean on our allies and world bodies and ask them to sanction or punish these bad actors for an unaccountable drone program when the mantra of our drone program is what drone program, right? >> if you have a program that is operating in the shadows, eventually you're going to have problems with it. right now, we use drones primarily as we've been about by the cia to kill al qaeda members. and i use that term loosely. sometimes these are al qaeda affiliates, people inspired by the same goals as al qaeda. well, other countries eventually will have armed drones and they can be using them against human rights activists. and we won't have a lot of moral ground to stand on. if we've been operating in the shadows. it goes back to 9/11. 9/11 happened. it was a horrible incident and the united states wasn't exactly prepared to deal with it. the military had plans for conventional war. didn't have plans for defeating a stateless organization that was more or less b
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